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JESUS OR MUHAMMAD?

A COMPARISON OF THE FOUNDERS
OF THE WORLD’S TWO LARGEST RELIGIONS

by Silas

INTRODUCTION

Jesus founded Christianity, Muhammad founded Islam. These are the two largest religions in the world with about 1.8 billion and 1.1 billion members respectively. Without a doubt, these men have affected humanity in a powerful way. As religious leaders they laid down many principles to live by.

Both religions have much in common, but differ strongly in other aspects. What were the founders’ characters like? How do they compare with each other?   What does the Bible and the Quran say about Jesus? What did their teachings and actions induce their followers to do? This article answers these questions by comparing and contrasting some of their actions and teachings.

NOTE: I will use the Bible, usually the New International Version (NIV)[1] as the source for Jesus’ words and actions. I will quote from the Quran, usually N.J. Dawood’s translation [2], and the Hadiths of Bukhari [3] and Muslim [4], the “Life of Muhammad” [5], which is a translation done by A. Guillaume of Ibn Ishaq’s “Sirat Rasulallah”, the “History” of Tabari [6], and the Sunan of Abu Dawud [7]. Generally, the Hadiths of Bukhari and Muslim are the sayings and deeds of Muhammad, and are recognized as the most authentic by Islamic scholarship. Ibn Ishaq’s “Sirat Rasulallah” is recognized as the best extent biography of Muhammad, and Tabari’s “History” is the best historical account of Muhammad and the early Islamic community available.

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SOME OF THEIR LAST WORDS

JESUS: “Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” Luke 23:34. (said while dying on the cross at Calvary after being betrayed and sentenced to die for no legitimate reason).

MUHAMMAD: “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets.” Bukhari, Vol. 1, #427 [Muhammad had been poisoned years earlier by a Jewish woman whose husband was killed by the Muslims and the poison had slowly worked its effect. He said this while dying in the arms of his wife Aisha].

COMMENT

As I’ve studied both of these men’s lives, I find that the above comparison details some of the strongest character differences. Here are their dying words, words that will mark the end of their lives. Christ asks God to forgive His enemies, while Muhammad utters a bitter curse against those who rejected his assertion of prophethood. Wouldn’t it have been more appropriate for Muhammad to ask Allah to guide the Christians and Jews while he was dying?

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SLAVERY

JESUS: had no slaves. Jesus taught to do to others as you would have them do to you. Jesus had no slaves, and it is apparent from His teachings that He would not have slaves. He freed men, not enslaved them. No one wants to be enslaved against their will.

Further, Paul wrote in 1 Timothy 1:8-10,

“We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers…”

From these verses, we see that forcibly enslaving people, and trading in slaves, are against Christian teachings.

MUHAMMAD: was a slaver. He owned and sold many slaves, both male and female. He said Allah allowed him and his Muslim followers to have sex with their female slaves when the men wanted to. Reference the Quran, Sura (chapters) 33:50, 52, 23:5, and 70:30. Slaves are considered “booty” for Muslims when taken in raids, thus they are Muslim’s property. Muhammad felt proud and conceited enough to enslave thousands of people.

The great Islamic historian Tabari wrote regarding Muhammad’s sexual intercourse with his slave Mariyah; “he had intercourse with her by virtue of her being his property.” [Tabari, Volume 39, page 194].

Muhammad made slaves out of the people he raided and fought against. Most notable were the women and children survivors of Muhammad’s massacre of the 800 males (young teens and up) of the Jewish Banu Quraydhah, Sura 33:26. The Sirat Rasulallah – the earliest biography of Muhammad, gives much more detail on pages 461 and on. Shortly after massacring the Jewish males Ibn Ishaq wrote on page 466:

“Then the apostle divided the property, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza among the Muslims, and he made known on that day the shares of horse and men, and took out the fifth”, (Muhammad and his family got one fifth of all the spoils of war). . . Then the apostle sent Sa’d . . . with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.”

Bukhari also documents Muhammad owning many slaves – vol. 5, # 541 & vol. 7, # 344. Muhammad had Negro, Arab, Egyptian, male, female, Jewish, Christian, and pagan Arab slaves.

Muhammad also allowed slaves to be harshly beaten. When his wife was being examined as to whether or not she committed adultery, Muhammad’s son in law, Ali, brutally beat Aisha’s slave in front of Muhammad, in order to insure that she tell the truth about Aisha. Here is the quote from Ibn Ishaq’s “Sirat Rasulallah”, translated as “The Life of Muhammad”, by A. Guillaume, (page 496):

“So the apostle called Burayra (Aisha’s slave) to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating saying, “Tell the apostle the truth,”….

Muhammad did not stop Ali from beating the slave.

Muhammad also allowed newly captured female slaves to be used for sex. From the Hadith of Sahih Muslim vol. 2, #3371

Abu Sirma said to Abu Said al Khudri: “O Abu Said, did you hear Allah’s messenger mentioning about al-azl (coitus interruptus)?” He said, “Yes”, and added: “We went out with Allah’s messenger on the expedition to the Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing azl” (withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid conception). But we said: “We are doing an act whereas Allah’s messenger is amongst us; why not ask him?” So we asked Allah’s messenger and he said: “It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born”.

And vol. 3, #3432

Abu Said al-Khudri reported that at the Battle of Hunain Allah’s messenger sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s messenger seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Quran – 4:24), (i.e. they were lawful for them when their Idda (menstrual) period came to an end).

COMMENT

Jesus’ teachings would preclude people from forcibly enslaving people. “Do to others as you would have them do to you” – Luke 6:31. On the other hand, Muhammad and his soldiers went out and attacked many people and forced them into slavery. Worse yet, Muhammad separated slave families by dividing them up between his soldiers and he allowed the men to rape the female slaves.

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SIN

JESUS: was born sinless; He lived a sinless life. Jesus asserted his sinlessness.

John 8:46 – “Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth why don’t you believe me?” Also note 2 Cor. 5:21, 1 John 3:5, Heb. 4:15

MUHAMMAD: was declared to be a sinner – Sura 40:55 – “Therefore have patience; God’s promise is surely true. Implore forgiveness for your sins, and celebrate the praise of your Lord evening and morning.”

Sura 48:1,2 – “We gave you a glorious victory so that God may forgive you your past and future sins …..”

Muhammad also prayed for forgiveness of his sins, Bukhari volume 9, #482:

“…O Allah! Forgive me the sins that I did in the past or will do in the future, and also the sins that I did in secret or in public.

Further, Muhammad even acknowledged harming or cursing people unjustly. From Sahih Muslim, volume 4, “The Book of Virtue and Good Manners, and Joining the Ties of Relationship, chapter MLXXV

“HE UPON WHOM ALLAH’S APOSTLE INVOKED CURSES WHEREAS HE IN FACT DID NOT DESERVE IT, IT WOULD BE A SOURCE OF REWARD AND MERCY FOR HIM”.

Hadith #6287 – “Abu Juraira reported Allah’s Messenger as saying, “O Allah, I am a human being and for any person amongst Muslims upon whom I hurl malediction or invoke curse or give him whipping make it a source of purity and mercy.”

COMMENT

Jesus was a sinless man – the Son of God. Muhammad was a self proclaimed prophet – a man capable of sinning and making mistakes, having both good and bad traits. At times he was kind, at times he cursed and harmed many people. How much of their nature, or character, was inevitably translated into their respective religion? Jesus was pure and sinless, Muhammad stated that he prayed for forgiveness up to 70,000 times a day! Who would you rather follow?

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PUNISHING SINNERS WHO WERE WILLING TO REPENT

JESUS

From John 8:2-11

At dawn He (Jesus) appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap in order to have a basis to accuse Him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with His finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one sir”, she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

MUHAMMAD

From the Hadith of Abu Dawud, #4428

“Buraidah said: “A woman of Ghamid came to the Prophet and said: “I have committed fornication”, He said: “Go back”. She returned and on the next day she came to him again, and said: “Perhaps you want to send me back as you did to Maiz b. Malik. I swear by Allah, I am pregnant.” He said to her: “Go back”. She then returned and came to him the next day. He said to her: “Go back until you give birth to the child.” She then returned. When she gave birth to the child she brought the child to him, and said: “Here it is! I have given birth to it.” He said: “Go back, and suckle him until you wean him.” When she had weaned him, she brought him to him with something in his hand which he was eating. The boy was then given to a certain man of the Muslims and he (the prophet) commanded regarding her. So a pit was dug for her, and he gave orders about her and she was stoned to death. Khalid was one of those who were throwing stones at her. He threw a stone at her. When a drop of blood fell on his cheek, he abused her. The prophet said to him: “Gently, Khalid. By Him in Whose hand my soul is, she has repented to such an extent that if one who wrongfully takes an extra tax were to repent to a like extent, he would be forgiven”. Then giving command regarding her, prayed over her and she was buried.””

COMMENT

Here is a stark contrast between the two men. When Jesus dealt with the adulterous woman, He did not condemn her. He commanded her to go and sin no more. He gave her a chance for redemption – the very model of mercy.

How many people have started out down the wrong street, but years later were able to turn their lives around? Not only in that, but they have been able to help others turn their lives around as well? Jesus offered this chance to the woman. Under the law, the Jews could have stoned the woman to death, but Christ’s love and compassion was much greater.

Muhammad’s approach was much different. At first, he tried to dismiss the adulterous woman. She confessed her sin to him, but he refused to hear her and deal with it. Instead, he told her to go back. This occurred three times. Three times Muhammad ran from dealing with the situation. Finally, after the women’s consistent confession, Muhammad was forced to confront her sin. He allowed her to give birth, suckle and then wean the child, which could have taken 1 to 3 years. Then she returned and Muhammad had her killed.

This woman not only confessed, but she repented. She was a good mother to her child and she was a responsible member of her community. Couldn’t Muhammad have forgiven her as he had so many other types of sinners? Muhammad allowed many others off for the sins they committed. Even people who had killed his family members were forgiven if they confessed he was a prophet of God and there was only one God. But Muhammad was unable to deal compassionately with the woman. He couldn’t see beyond his nose. He couldn’t see that she had turned her life around, properly raised her child, and was doing the right thing. Muhammad’s shortsightedness caused her death.

Muhammad did not even deal with it after Judaic law. In Moses’ law, the adulterer was to be stoned to death. Muhammad did not do so, he gave the woman several years to live. Even if you take into account the respite to give birth to a child, Muhammad waited until the woman weaned the child. Surely there were other women who could have nursed the child. Muhammad simply dealt with the situation as best, (or not best) as he could; Muhammad made up his own rules as he went along.

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WAR – TREATMENT OF ADVERSARIES

JESUS: In Luke 9:54, 55 Jesus rebuked His disciples when they wanted to destroy a town that rejected Him. Also, in Luke 22:52, Jesus’ disciples started to fight against those that came to arrest Jesus, He stopped them, and healed a man injured in the fight.

MUHAMMAD: told his followers to aggressively make war on non-Muslims: 9:5, 29. Sura 9 was one of the last Suras given by Muhammad. Initially, when Muhammad’s group was weak, he ordered his followers to try to get along with other people. After the Muslims became powerful, he ordered them to spread Islam by force. Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman continued his wars of aggression. A few of Muhammad’s actions include:

The massacre of approximately 800 Jewish male captives: (noted in Sura 33:26).

He ordered the execution of 10 people when he took Mecca. Three of these people were slave girls who had previously made fun of Muhammad. Refer to “The Life of Muhammad”, pages 551 and 552.

He attacked the Jewish city of Khaibar where he took one of the Jewish leaders and tortured him to force him to tell where some buried money was. After the man refused to talk, and was near death, Muhammad ordered that his head be cut off. Refer to “The Life of Muhammad”, page 515.

COMMENT

No one would envision Jesus ordering the execution of slave girls for mocking him years earlier. He brought a better message and a better way of life. No one would imagine Jesus having a man tortured to reveal buried money. His life was free of greed.

Muhammad could be a very brutal man. Does killing a few slave girls for mocking him seem justified?. Is having them killed for that justified? Does it seem rational or sensible? Does torturing a man just to get money portray the type of man society should follow, obey, and emulate?

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WOMEN & MARRIAGE

JESUS: was not married. He healed women, forgave women, and encouraged women. The New Testament teaches that husbands should love their wives and not be harsh with them: Col. 3:19, Eph. 5:25, that men and women are equal in Christ – Gal 3:28, that they should be treated with respect – 1 Pet 3:7.

MUHAMMAD: commanded his male followers to beat their disobedient wives. He gave men the right to beat their wives who persistently disobeyed them.

Sura 4:34 “As those you fear may be rebellious admonish, banish them to their couches, and beat them.”

The above verse was revealed in connection with a woman who complained to Muhammad that her husband slapped her on the face, which was still marked by the slap. At first Muhammad said to her “Get even with him”, but then added ‘Wait until I think about it”. Later on the above verse was revealed, and Muhammad added, ‘We (He and the woman) wanted one thing, Allah wanted another.

The Hadith also said much about women:

Muhammad said that women are generally so evil, that they will make up the majority of people in to hell. Continuing with Bukhari,

Vol. 1, #301: “O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women). They [women] asked, “Why is it so, O Allah’s Apostle?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands.”

Bukhari Vol. 1, #28: “The Prophet said, “I was shown the Hell-fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful.” It was asked, “Do they disbelieve in Allah?” (or are they ungrateful to Allah?), he replied, “They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good done to them….”

Sahih Muslim says they are the minority in Paradise:

Volume 4, #6600: “Imran Husain reported that Allah’s messenger said: Amongst the inmates of Paradise the women would form a minority.”

By putting these two Hadith together, we find that Muhammad said that women were the minority in Paradise, and the majority in hell. Therefore it is not a statistical ratio due to the possibility that there are more women than men. Muhammad viewed women as more sinful than men. And the reason more women are in hell is because the women were ungrateful to their husbands!

Muhammad also declared that women are less intelligent than men:

Bukhari, Volume 1, #301:

“…Then he (Muhammad) passed by the women and said, “O women, give alms as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women).” they asked, “Why is it so O Allah’s messenger?” He replied, “You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked, “O Allah’s messenger, what is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said, “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said, “This is the deficiency in her intelligence…..”

COMMENT

Christ’s teachings show that women and men are equal in God’s sight. “There is neither male nor female in Christ”. Socially, Christ dealt with them according to the Father’s mercy.

Muhammad positioned females as in between slave and free. Even today in Islamic countries women are regulated to being second class and controlled by the males. This is because of where Muhammad placed them in his teachings.

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CHRIST’S IDENTITY

JESUS: said He was the Son of God: John 5:18-27, 10:36, Matt 26:63, 64

[Jesus] asked, “Who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.”

Matthew 16: 15-17

JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD

“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.” John 1:14

JESUS AS GOD

“Christ Jesus . . . who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men . . .” Philippians 2:5-7

MUHAMMAD: said Jesus was not the Son of God – the Quran makes no distinction among Prophets and Christ is no more than a Messenger:

Sura 5:75         “Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him …”

The Quran denies Christ’s divine origin:

Sura 43:59:       “He was no more than a servant: we granted our favor to him, and we made him an example to the children of Israel.”

Sura 3:59:         “The similitude of Jesus before Allah is that of Adam: he created him from dust, then said to him, “Be”: and he was.”

COMMENT

Christ, as a great prophet and teacher, also taught that He was the Son of God, the Word of God, the Messiah, and God incarnate. Muhammad denied this. Either Jesus was telling the truth, or he was a liar or lunatic. Both men could not be correct concerning Christ’s identity. Remember, Muhammad came wandering out of the desert, with “revelations” some 600 years later. He had little clue as to what he was talking about. He frequently contradicted the Bible that he asserted as the Word of God.

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JESUS WAS WORTHY OF WORSHIP

A man worshipped Jesus, and Jesus permitted it, but Jesus taught that only God was to be worshipped in Matthew 4:10 –

Jesus said to him, “Away from me Satan for it is written, “Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only”.

Yet Jesus allowed people to worship him in Matthew 8:2 –

“And behold, there came a leper and worshipped Him saying…”

The Bible commands us to worship Jesus Christ:

“… all should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which sent him.” John 5:23

“… let all the angels of God worship him.” Hebrews 1:6

“… at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:10, 11

MUHAMMAD: JESUS WAS NOT WORTHY OF WORSHIP

The Quran implies that Jesus is not worthy of worship:

Sura 43:81:       “Say: ‘If the Most Gracious had a son, I would be the first to worship him.'”

COMMENT

Only God has the right to be worshipped as divine. Men have received worship as rulers, but God commanded that He alone is to be worshipped. Jesus taught this, but He received worship. Muhammad did not know who Jesus was, and thus he denied worship to the Son of God.

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PRAYER

JESUS: taught His disciples to pray simply, and from the heart. God listens to the heart, not the outward form:

Matt: 6:5-13:    “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words…”

Jesus taught that true prayer was an expression of relationship and communication with a heavenly Father.

MUHAMMAD: taught formalized prayer ritual: (quotes are from Bukhari, Vol. 1)

488 – passing in front of a praying person annuls his prayer

489 – it’s a sin to pass in front of someone while they’re praying

660 – don’t raise from prayer before the Imam {Muslim cleric leading the formal, ritualized prayers), or God will turn your face into a donkey’s face

685 – if the prayer rows (of men) aren’t straight, God will alter your faces

690 – if the prayer rows aren’t straight, the prayer is not good

717 – if you look up during prayer, you’ll lose your eyesight

759 – if you don’t perform the bowing perfectly, your prayers are not accepted

These men were quite different. Both have left their marks upon the world. Christians follow Christ, Muslims follow Muhammad. Both claimed to have been from God, but their teachings and actions contradict each other. Only one could have truly been from God

Jesus said that false prophets would come: Matthew 24:11 – “And many false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many”. Is it possible that Muhammad falls into the false prophet category?

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BIBLIOGRAPHY

[1]        The New International Study Bible, pub. by Zondervan Publishing House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA.

[2]        The Quran, translated by N.J. Dawood, pub. by Penguin Books, London, England.

[3]        “Sahih Al-Bukhari” – “The Translation of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari”, translated by Dr. M Khan, pub. by Kitab Bhavan, New Delhi, India.

[4]        “Sahih Muslim”, translated into English by A. Siddiqi, pub. by International Islamic Publishing House, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

[5]        “Sirat Rasulallah” – “The Life of the Prophet of God”, translated as “The Life of Muhammad” by A. Guillaume, pub. by Oxford University Press, London, England.

[6]        “The History of Tabari”, published by SUNY, Albany, New York, USA.

[7]        “Sunan of Abu Dawud”, published by Al-Madina Publications, New Delhi, India.

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founders.htm
Rev A: 6-6-97, Rev B: 12-20-97, Rev C: 3-22-98, Rev D: 2-4-99, Rev E: 4/17/99, Rev F: 10/13/99, Rev G: 8/28/01

Articles by Silas
Answering Islam Home Page

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/founders.htm

Some folks just cannot, or will not, see just how ugly, False, vile and absolutely Abhorrent islam truly is…
Because they SO want to believe all the pretty False-Talk that muzzies dribble and drivel to cover up not merely islam’s digusting past History (and horrendously disgusting false-prophet muhammed) but also to try to cover and turn eyes away from what islam is REALLY like in the Modern Era.

Now, you muzzies are gonna find this ‘offensive’, and that’s too damned bad for you, because the truth hurts, and now islam cannot hide it away anymore.

So, this post will deal with islam and Slavery…and I warn you now, it gets pretty damned awful.

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African immigration is quite controversial. Not so much in Europe, as in the Middle East, where slavery still exists and racism remains part of the culture. It’s a topic that most Western liberals have no real interest in discussing because it cuts against their preconceptions and their ideological posturing. But it’s quite real.

 

Morroco’s Maroc Hebdo magazine is running a cover story about the “Black Peril” and French media outlets have stories on what life is like for Africans in the parts of Africa controlled by Arab Muslims. And it’s not a pretty picture.

Often, when I’m just walking down the street, people will call me a “dirty black man” or call me a slave. Young Moroccans have physically assaulted me on several occasions, for no reason, and passers-by who saw this didn’t lift a finger to help me. All my friends are black and they have all had similar experiences. Even the girls get insulted in the street. To avoid getting hurt, I now try to ignore the insults. But if someone starts to hit me, what can I do? I have to defend myself…
Maroc Hebdo had a cover story entitled “the Black Peril,” accusing sub-Saharan Africans of living off begging, drug trafficking and prostitution. The cover featured a close up shot of a black man’s face.

Morocco is the African gateway to Europe, giving it a role similar to Mexico, but without the financial incentives that Mexico has to encourage illegal immigration. And as African migrants stream into Morocco, we are reminded once again that the West is far less racist than the east.

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So, there’s that…but wait, there’s a LOT worse coming.

I DARE any of you to read this, and end up feeling like you’ve been stabbed in the heart in compassion and grief for these children…that obamatard is ABANDONING to face these monsters.
If you don’t consider this ‘slavery’, then you’re seriously Effed-up.
Welcome to Hell-On-Earth for Children…
One Amnesty International couldn’t care less about.
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“President Obama recently announced the end of the war in Afghanistan, thereby officially surrendering what he himself had once called the ‘Good War.’ With thousands of American lives now squandered as the Radical-in-Chief oversees the triumph of the enemy, Frontpage is re-running Jamie Glazov’s article “Boys of the Taliban,” from our Jan 1, 2007 issue, to help crystallize the true nature of the barbaric enemy Obama is now handing Afghanistan to.”

“The key issue here is that the sickness that underlies Rule No. 19 is by no means exclusive to the Taliban; it is a widespread phenomenon throughout Islamic-Arab culture and it lies, among other factors, at the root of that culture’s addiction to rage and its lust for violence, terror and suicide.

There is a basic and common sense empirical human reality: wherever humans construct and perpetuate an environment in which females and their sexuality are demonized and are pushed into invisibility, homosexual behavior among men and the sexual abuse of young boys by older men increases. Islamic-Arab culture serves as a perfect example of this paradigm, seeing that gender apartheid, fear of female sexuality and a vicious misogyny are the structures on which the whole society functions.

It is no surprise that John Racy, a psychiatrist with much experience in Arab societies, has noted that homosexuality is “extremely common” in many parts of the Arab world. [1] Indeed, even though homosexuality is officially despised in this culture and strictly prohibited and punishable by imprisonment, incarceration and/or death, having sex with boys or effeminate men is actually a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women.”

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/jamie-glazov/boys-of-the-taliban/

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Some of you wanted ‘proof’ of slavery in islam.
Well, do you like the taste of it?

Below is some Historical context, with Citations and such.
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ABSTRACT

 

            Islam institutionalized slavery. Muhammad began to take slaves after he moved to Medina, and had power. Slaves were usually taken in raids on nearby Arab tribes, or war, either through offensive or defensive actions. Islam allows the taking of slaves as “booty”, or reward for fighting. This has led to numerous “jihads” by Muslim states and tribes to attack other non-Muslim groups and obtain slaves. Islamic jurisprudence laid down regulations for the proper treatment of slaves. However, abuses have occurred throughout history.

 

INTRODUCTION

 

            The West is familiar with the history of slavery in the new world. It was sinful and terrible, and it lasted for several hundred years. And it was abolished mainly through the efforts of Christians in England (Wilberforce, Clarkson) and America (the Abolitionists, primarily Protestant).

 

            However, few people in the west know about Islam and slavery. Most would be surprised that Islam authorizes the taking of slaves as spoils of war. From the days that Muhammad drew his sword to rob and conquer non-Muslims to this very day, Muslims have been taking non-Muslims, and even other black Muslims, as slaves.

 

            Muslims were enslaving black Africans long before any slave ships sailed for the New World. Muslims were taking and making slaves all over the lands they had conquered. Later, when slave ships were loaded with black slaves, often, a Muslim slave broker had the human cargo all ready to go. American slavers rarely had to go into inland to capture slaves, they were already waiting there, courtesy of some Muslim ruler, and/or slave broker! In many cases, if the black slaves were not sent to the New World, they were sent to the Mideast to be enslaved by Arabs, or kept by other black Muslims as slaves.

 

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MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, THE QURAN, AND SLAVERY

 

            To begin with, the Quran justifies slavery, and often mentions slaves. Here are some relevant verses:

http://answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm

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This one has Historical overview, and vids with 2 survivors of islamic slavery. Also, Citations down near the bottom to check out yourself.
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Muslim Slavery In The Modern Age: Real Life Stories
Francis Bok tells his story as a 20th century slave to Muslims in Sudan, captured as a child slave under Islamic sharia:
Another escaped slave, Simon Deng, sold to a Muslim for the equivalent of $10, tells his story as a 20th century slave in the modern age where slavery continues to exist and be legalized under Islamic Sharia law. Simon Deng warns blacks in America not to be lured into Islam here blacks are still viewed as slave goods and merely used as soldiers to better Islamic agenda. Over 3.5 million people have been slaughtered by Muslims in Sudan.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/the-arab-slave-trade-and-200-million-non-muslim-slaves-of-all-skin-colors/

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Now, I have a good number of additional sources, with references and such, even from media that tries to shelter for islam and even with their best efforts (False-Talk) still find it VERY difficult to avoid the truth of islamic slavery happening in the Modern World.
Think about that, the next time you watch all the islam-friendly media.
Then ask yourself; “What aren’t they telling me?”

Some of you will call me ‘racist’…well, I’m speaking OUT for all these PEOPLE who are being enslaved, not just Africans…

ALL of them.
So, if you try to brand me a Racist, check yourself out in a mirror as ask why YOU remain Silent about this Modern Dau horrorstory being perpetrated by islam, often with the dhimmi-type abeyance as seen in the exposure of the decades-long Pedo-Grooming rings in UK that Police & Government KNEW about…

…yet did Nothing about for 20 years.
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http://www.britainfirst.org/british-isis-fighter-executions-trafalgar-square/

One ‘British’ man currently fighting for ISIS in Syria has claimed that the UK should be frightened of the skills he has learned there.

A Twitter account thought to belong to Nasser Muthana, 20, has a picture showing what appear to be improvised explosive devices in a garage.

The caption reads: ‘So the UK is afraid I come back with the skills I’ve gained.’

He also describes himself as a ‘soldier of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham’, and has previously spoke of jihad as ‘obligatory’.

 

Personal Statement:

This muzzie drainclog better very seriously think twice, and BLOODY carefully if he wants to go down that road. People are increasingly waking up to the fact that when dealing with islam, it’s ‘Kill or be killed’.

That said, people like myself already have begun. Where I live, Al-Quaeda goons have been trying to ignite more jihad-forest-fires, close to our city, the Tribal lands and the Paganic Enclave. With the prevailing winds, such fires set in the very dry forest area would have a similar effect to a small nuke, and would be out of control almost from time of ignition.

We’ve been dealing with them ourselves, in a very direct means, as this is War. a deliberately-set forest fire of the types that A-Q have been doing are the equivalent of WMDs, and using such is not only a War Crime, it’s also a Open act and declaration of War.

So, we take it as what it is, and deal with it accordingly.

How does this apply to Britain?

There’s a movement among us Native Aboriginal Americans, and we are Reclaiming OUR ancestral lands. When we have cleaned them out of islam and socialists…we will be going to Australia, UK and other nations to aid them in ‘Encouraging’ islam to Leave.

We don’t do Political Correctness, we don’t give a damn what Liberals and such have to say, and we don’t waste time talking to islam beyond “Leave our lands or face the consequences for defying us.”
Do we wave cutesie protest signs and such?

NO, we have spent over 2 Centuries ‘talking’ and ‘protesting’…and what’s it gotten us?

THIS.

More of the same shit we’ve been dealing with for 200+ years…but NO MORE.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/us/obama-visits-sioux-lands-on-a-trip-shadowed-by-iraq.html?_r=0

http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/06/25/feds-threatening-third-wounded-knee-with-eminent-domain-land-grab-on-sioux-indian-reservation/

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/07/19/the-obama-administration-will-seize-land-from-the-lakota-sioux-if-they-arent-stopped/

 

So, all you jihadi out there, thinking of coming to or returning to the Americas and other non-American western nations, with your plans on causing trouble…

WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND EXTERMINATE YOU.

We have been building and organizing and training since end of WW2…you think you have skills??

And save the crap about: “islam isn’t your enemy”…yes, you are and nothing you say with your False-Talk will change the facts or islam’s history, or annul the Open Declaration of War.

We KNOW what your planning and intent is, and do NOT dare to tell us what we think, see, understand, or make the mistake  to ‘speak for us’…

We Speak for Ourselves now…NO one else will ever speak for us again.

Here’s some Truth about the Wendigo called ‘islam’…

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Islam has an even larger problem to address!.

Debating islam with muslims & Liarberals (not mis-spelled).

Pagan men speak out on patriarchy and misogyny.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/08/rape-jihad.html

 

Just the facts over at #rapejihad:

Is ethnicity relevant to the Muslim rapists? (thanks to Inex)

Let’s ask them:

  • Muslim Anjum Tahir raped an English woman because, in his own words, he “didn’t understand the English way of doing things”. [Source]
  • Rotherham Muslim rape-gang member Umar Razaq called his victim a “white bitch” [Source]
  • Oxford Muslim rape-gang “exclusively wanted white girls to abuse” [Source]
  • Lebanese Muslims led by Bilal Skaf gang-raped white Australian girls, calling them “Aussie Pigs”, telling them “we’re going to fuck you Leb-style”, “you deserve it because you’re Australian”, and asking them if “Leb-cock tastes better than Aussie cock”. [Source]
  • Iranian immigrant doctor who groped patients said “Western women open their legs to easily” [Source]
  • Muslims led by Ashtiaq Asghar murdered a white girl they were having sex with, calling her a “kuffar bitch” (“kuffar” is a derogatory term for a non-Muslim). Their mother also  called her a “dirty white bitch”. [Source]
  • Muslim Adil Rashid had sex with 13 year-old girl and said he didn’t know it was wrong because his Muslim upbringing taught him girls were worthless. [Source]
  • Muslim paedophile Azad Miah called his victims “White Trash” [Source] and said “In My Country Age Doesn’t Matter” [Source]
  • Muslim rapist Abdul Reda Al Shawany raped two women as punishment for reading the Bible, saying “Let Your Jesus Help You”. [Source]
  • Muslim rapists the Khan brothers gang-raped girls and said they did it because they weren’t wearing head-scarves and in their culture women can’t say no. [Source]
  • “Strict Muslim” Sunny Islam raped multiple girls as punishment for being outside. [Source]
  • Muslim Rapist Esmatullah Sharifi said he raped women because of “cultural differences” and he didn’t understand what “consent” was. [Source]
  • Muslim gang led by Shamrez Rashid raped girls as part of their Eid celebrations, and the court was packed with vocal Muslim supporters. [Source]
  • Rochdale groomer told victim he wasn’t doing anything wrong because “in my country you’re allowed to have sex with people from the age of 11″. [Source]
  • Judge concludes “You preyed on these girls because they were not part of your community or religion” [Source]
  • Katie Taylor was groomed by Muslims who “said they couldn’t be seen with her because she was white”. [Source]
  • Nigerian [50% Muslim] paedophile Opemipo Jaji was “obsessed with little white girls”. [Source]
  • Muslim rape-gang in Telford smuggled white girls through the back window of their takeaway because they didn’t want to be seen with white girls [Source] [Source] and told them to “suck my sweet chocolate cock”. [Source]
  • Muslim rape-gang leader Shabir Ahmed said in court “It’s not just them who are racist, we are racist too!”. [Source]
  • Girl A in the Rochdale case “was singled out because she was white”. [Source]
  • White Australian girls complain of constant racial-sexual harassment by Lebanese men. [Source]
  • North African rapist in France “was angry at white people” and “wanted to humiliate white people”. [Source]
  • Mufti Shahid Mehdi who said “Women are not entitled to respect when they walk around without a Hijab. They are to blame when they are attacked” rapes a Danish woman, then accuses her of being racist. [Source]
  • Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali says women are asking to be raped by not wearing a hijab. [Source]
  • Muslim immigrants interviewed in Sweden say “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl”. [Source]
  • Pakistani who raped white girl told her “this is how it is in my religion”. [Source]
  • “Asian” men in Britain are 5 times more likely to be groomers than white men in Britain. [Source]
  • Black rapist in France asked white women their nationality and religion before raping them. [Source] [Source] [Source]
  • Saudi Muslim cleric says the 72 virgins in Paradise are white women with wide eyes. [Source]
  • Muslim prayer leader from Egypt claims “cultural misunderstanding” made him sexually assault Australian women. [Source]
  • Iranian diplomat claims he accidentally molested under-age girls because of “cultural misunderstanding” [Source]

Now, with all that said….

Try to tell me that islam isn’t a Racist, vile, misogynistic abomination in the Human world.

 

Let’s look back shall we?

To the world’s most infamous criminal organizations.

Yakuza.

Triads.

Tongs

Mafia

Hell’s Angels.

Yes, they kill folks. Yes, they sell drugs. Yes, they engage in Prositution, Racketeering and Protection schemes as well as theft and black-market resale.

And every time they stir, there’s the Hew & Cry and the authorities clamp down. Because after all, such cannot be tolerated, and indeed even being peripherally associated with them gets one on the bad side of the RICO act and such other anti-organized crime laws and every alphabet-agency there is.

But, there’s one group that engages in:

using kids as young as toddlers as weapons,

child soldiers,

drug production and sales,

child-marriage,

Female Genital Mutilation,

illegally stockpiles Military Weapons (and I mean RPG and related heavy weapons),

engages in riots that are more brushfire wars than legitimate protests

Welfare fraud

Un-monitored food preparations

and even insists on having a legal system imposed that permits all that they do.

Thus, is islam. islam has nothing in common with any Genuine faith, and actually easily makes the most dire and dreaded criminal organizations on the planet look like paper tigers in comparison.

Consider how the media is kowed by islam–something even the mafia at it’s most powerful never managed.

islam, is NOT a ‘religion’…it is a criminal organization based on a Hardcore Fascist/Totalitarian/Authoritarian Sociopolitical-Economic system that micromanages every aspect of a person’s life, accomplished by means of an inculcated Cult-mindset.

And remember, when you tell me that ‘they’re not all like that’…all those on the streets of NY on 9/11 that Cheered as the planes hit the towers were you’re so-called ‘Moderates’ of islam, as are the ones that are turning Marseilles in France into a ‘No-Go’ zone. Remember, there were ‘nice’ mafiosi also…and they were ALL mafiosi, and ALL were treated as such, owing to their allegiances to the organization.

So, save your breath about trying to BS me about the myth of the moderate muzzie… Such is no longer of any concern given the problems and atrocities islam brings.

Also, the Mafia, and the rest of the criminal organizations, totalled up all over the combined histories, ahve never killed anywhere near the number of people islam has just in the 20th Century alone.

Consider that…and consider the rest.

A few centuries back, Native Americans experienced an Invasion. We saw our culture and our civilization all but completely annihilated. It’s a matter of record.

Since then, things have improved somewhat, but the point remains…the Americas are OUR lands, and always will be, and nothing can ever change that. We have never forgotten that these are OUR lands, by Right, and we have had enough of being pushed about, ignored and shunted aside.

Now, we face a new invasion, and like others, I will stand and fight against it–and considering how we opposed a golf course, these new invaders had better think long and hard what is in store for them, as should they’re sympathizers and enablers.

islam spreads like Cancer, and like Cancer it applies Deception to mask it’s Inimical nature. By the time the host nation realizes what’s going on, it’s terminal.

http://vladtepesblog.com/2013/07/31/frances-interior-minister-manuel-valls-refuses-to-place-the-whole-city-of-marseille-in-a-priority-security-zone/

Simply put, the islam-sickness is not welcome in the Americas. This means muslims also. We’ve been Watching, and no one has noticed us (as always) and know the Truth by our own eyes vs. the Crooked words is islam and politicos. We are as like Ghosts, and have been watching for long decades as the islam-sickness has spread unchecked. We see what it does to other nations–by our own eyes. Yes, we travel, as do our Cousins, and firsthand observe and record much of what islam and it’s pandering drivelwits deny and cover-up.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/imam-predicts-muslims-will-become-the-majority-in-canada/

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/04/cair-chief-claims-muslims-discovered-america-first/3/

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2012/09/03/muslims-discovered-america-we-know-they-keep-rewriting-their-own-dark-and-shameful-history-but-now-they-are-rewriting-american-history/

As can be seen, islam and it’s muzzies LIE.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f8f_1308328198

They lie about islam, their intent, and about how ‘peaceful’ and ‘tolerant’ islam and muzzies really are.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Palestinian-lead-in-Canada-Shoot-Israeli-Jews-if-they-dont-leave-Jerusalem-322145

http://www.jpost.com/International/Islamists-at-Berlin-al-Quds-Day-call-for-destruction-of-Jewish-state-321974

It’s no secret what islam is doing to Christians and Hindus and Buddhists worldwide either, they’re being murdered, persecuted, displaced…and every non-muslim killed invalidates the claims of the ‘moderates’ about what they claim the truth of islam is. islam shreds it’s own deception.

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/ryan-mauro/islamist-group-in-america-well-impose-sharia-on-christians/

Then, there’s those muzzies who feel no fear of telling the flat out truth, as they think they’re unassailable under PolCorr and that the Marxist-Liberals have their backs…

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f94_1305175713

I am Pagan, and also carry a lot of Native American blood from both Native American and Canadian First Nation peoples. By Paganity, I do not mean ‘modern’, I mean Ancient, and stretching back to before the Glacial Epoch. Over 30 generations of Paganity flows in my veins. Husband has 20+, and I suspect more than myself.  That all said, I know where I belong, as my Great-Grandmother’s Tribe has welcomed me in completely.

In regards to islam, and the way they see Native Americans, I and an increasing number of others will not tolerate this islam-sickness on our lands. Nor do we look fondly on the open-door immigration policies allowing the flood of unwanted into OUR lands.

Simply put, things are going to Change.

islam, and it’s sympathizers, panderers and drivelwitted lickspittle apologists can Leave our lands, or be cast out.

https://www.facebook.com/Marlene38EE/posts/195650383932543

http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/jihadists-claim-credit-for-arizona-fires/

There comes a time when enough is enough, and the Jihad Fires in Arizona and Slave Lake (Yes, Slave Lake was a Jihad Fire, that little gem of  fact was covered up) were taken as a Declaration of War on Humanity, Nature and Life by Paganity…and they are genuinely preparing to drive islam to somalia and kill off any muzzies too stupid or stubborn to flee. The ‘governments’ won’t get in their way because the forces they have after decades and decades of quiet preparation outstrip the combined Military forces of all the major powers combined. The UN won’t interfere because the Pagans are targetting the UN for Crimes Against Humanity in the UN’s Aiding & Abetting of multiple Genocides and Democides in the past and present day…so the UN is hoping for mercy and leniency.

And, Paganity isn’t standing alone. They’re Returning from the shadows of History and so are their Allies and Cousins.

Paganity has given islam and it’s sympathizers The Warning & The Choice.

Their Allies and Cousins, are NOT as kind or generous.

Neither are we.

islam can leave the Americas, or we can start nailing scalps and scrotums to mosque doors as a message that they should have listened and that there’s a price to be paid for them in invading our lands…and that warning will also apply directly to their sympathizers to be certain, be they White, Black, male, female…

This is War, for Cultural Survival, and islam declared it. If you have a problem with what I speak, then take it up with islam, it is the Aggressor. And if your a sympathizer of islam, or it’s allies and enablers (like Obama and Justin Trudeau) then you know now to watch the shadows and start fearing sunset…the shadows and night are Ours, same as the Lands.

islam makes an ultimatum to the Jewish People, then they get the same in kind: Leave our Lands or be Annihilated down to the last child.

We agree with Paganity and their Allies and Cousins in that there’s to be NO negotiations, bargaining, ‘peace processes’, or other such falsity. We have spoken the Word of Warning. islam and it’s sympathizers have the choice to make.

It’s that simple, and that Final.

We have had enough of politicos and Crooked speakers after tolerating such for centuries.

Now, you play by our rules and you have no choice in the matter.

Leave, or face The Knife.

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In the following, I speak as Harbinger, at the request of those I represent.

I am their Voice.

Marlene Wilkins Blackwinter

Witch of The First Circle

Consecrated to Hekate

Harbinger

Islam, so very many years have we battled and fought…

Our finest opponent, the Universe accepts all who live fiercely, who defend their offspring, who build and struggle and grow, and even those who dominate – as muslims have dominated; Cruelly. Callously, without Wisdom, Compassion or Intelligence.

But for all of us, there is a time like this…

Know this, relentless enemy, killer of our children. Slaves of muhmad. Soon you will face the enemy you have never suspected, and you will be afraid.

islam, you claim to be a ‘religion of peace’, and speak of tolerance, understanding–and you claim the islamic texts forbid murder, jihad in the capacity of harming life.

Tell that to the millions of dead.

The Liberals, worldwide, have corrupted our governments, our social systems. They bullied and forced the passage of disastrous decisions in defiance of those who have entrusted them with authority and the privilege of serving them. They took upon themselves the capacity of final authority out of arrogance, conceit and based their decisions on deal-making and influence-peddling to pander to islam and other anti-civilizational and anti-Human interests, and in so doing, they brought this sickness to our shores.

But for all of us, there is a time like this…

You who think are unassailable, untouchable, beyond the reach of Justice in corrupting the Courts and Law, you think you are ‘Safe’. You have spent decades of time in you little machinations, selling out and betraying your own peoples and for what amounts to a delusion of ‘power’ and meaningless paper you think represents wealth. You increasingly claim more and more ‘authority’ over people, Sovereign and Sentient beings that you have NO authority over in point of fact. You undermine and increasingly attempt to deny the Innate Birthrights of Sentient Life, those are detailed in the American Constitution, a unique document, and the Prime Source for an Improved version we will be making Global–time has shown where you attacked it, and now we know how to make it inviolable.

You failed Tyrants, Dictators, Theocratosts and would-be god-kings….you think you’re Safe? You comfort yourselves with lies and delusions about the nature of the world, your ability, your ‘influence’ and your plans. You think your bunkers and strongholds make you unreachable, unassailable, Safe…

You are not.

As the Dinosaurs before you understood, in their final days as Extinction overwhelmed those who failed to adapt and evolve…

But for all of us, there is a time like this…

…And for you, that time is now.

Hekate NO surrender